Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted May 2, 2009 Aerosoft Share Posted May 2, 2009 When you got the engines in the Realistic mode (set on the Checklist Configuration page) it is not easy to start the engines. These massive engines are not like modern engines and do not have sophisticated digital controls. But like most things, if you done it right one time it becomes easy. Here is a short step by step guide, feel free to ask questions. Check that: Battery Switch is ON (27 volts minimal, reload aircraft when battery is low)All other electrical switches are OFFCowl Gills are OPENParking Brakes are SETMaster Ignition is ON Switch to Back Wall ViewBeacon light ONRight Fuel Selector to BOTHRight Mixture Control to FULL RICH Switch to Main Virtual Cockpit View Throttle slightly open (cracked)Right Fuel Booster to ONRight Starter ON and wait 6 seconds (12 blades count)Right Prime to ON for a 4 seconds and repeat and...... immediately Right Magneto to BOTHWhen engine starts Right Mixture Control to AUTO RICHRight Generator ON Right Starter to OFFRight Fuel Booster to OFFUse primer when RPM drops below 1500 Repeat for Left EngineWhen engine does not start [*]Starter to OFF[*]Fuel Boost to OFF[*]Ignition to OFF[*]And repeat with at item 4 with more priming. If it is really cold or when you hear the engine struggle just give it some more prime or even keep the prime on during the startup.Or check out this small video. It looks better if you click this link that will open it in high definition directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahben 0 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 When you got the engines in the Realistic mode (set on the Checklist Configuration page) it is not easy to start the engines. These massive engines are not like modern engines and do not have sophisticated digital controls. But like most things, if you done it right one time it becomes easy. Here is a short step by step guide, feel free to ask questions.Check that:Battery Switch is ON (27 volts minimal, reload aircraft when battery is low)All other electrical switches are OFFCowl Gills are OPENParking Brakes are SETMaster Ignition is ONSwitch to Back Wall ViewBeacon light ONRight Fuel Selector to BOTHRight Mixture Control to FULL RICHSwitch to Main Virtual Cockpit ViewThrottle slightly open (cracked)Right Fuel Booster to ONRight Starter ON and wait 6 seconds (12 blades count)Right Prime to ON for a 4 seconds and repeat and...... immediately Right Magneto to BOTHWhen engine starts Right Mixture Control to AUTO RICHRight Generator ONRight Starter to OFFRight Fuel Booster to OFFUse primer when RPM drops below 1500Repeat for Left EngineWhen engine does not start Starter to OFFFuel Boost to OFFIgnition to OFFAnd repeat with at item 4 with more priming. If it is really cold or when you hear the engine struggle just give it some more prime or even keep the prime on during the startup.Or check out this small video.It looks better if you click this link that will open it in high definition directly.Hi Mathijs,been having some trouble starting engines in realisticmode.should i prime for 4 seconds,stop,and prime again for 4 seconds before switching magnetos or just prime the once?I can start it easily in normal mode.By the way,i have been flying sims for about 5 years and must say this aircraft is an absolute joy to fly,congrats to you and your team!I would love to see a pilatus pc12 project from you guys ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 873 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Hi Mathijs,been having some trouble starting engines in realisticmode.should i prime for 4 seconds,stop,and prime again for 4 seconds before switching magnetos or just prime the once?I can start it easily in normal mode.By the way,i have been flying sims for about 5 years and must say this aircraft is an absolute joy to fly,congrats to you and your team!I would love to see a pilatus pc12 project from you guys !The correct way to prime is like this:-After having engaged the starter - toggle the switch to prime twice.-Then immediatly move the magentos to both.-The engines should start to run.-The engine might run uneven, so now prime again toggling the primer on and off a couple of times.-Keep an eye on the RPM and prime when RPM starts to drop.-When Oil temp reaches 35°, priming should not be necessaryNote !When turning on magnetos, You might need to open up the throttles briefly until RPM gets above 1000 RPM - then retard again to keep RPM down, but not more than necessary to keep RPM just above 1000 RPM.Finn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahben 0 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 The correct way to prime is like this:-After having engaged the starter - toggle the switch to prime twice.-Then immediatly move the magentos to both.-The engines should start to run.-The engine might run uneven, so now prime again toggling the primer on and off a couple of times.-Keep an eye on the RPM and prime when RPM starts to drop.-When Oil temp reaches 35°, priming should not be necessaryNote !When turning on magnetos, You might need to open up the throttles briefly until RPM gets above 1000 RPM - then retard again to keep RPM down, but not more than necessary to keep RPM just above 1000 RPM.FinnHi Finn,thanks for your reply.It still wont start in realistic mode,i followed your instructions,i have gone through the interactive checklist,and also watched vid on utube but they still wont kick over.I can start it no problem in standard mode.Do you do anything different(in cold and dark config)between standard and realistic modes in getting these engines started?Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Golding 159 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 If you're sure you've not missed something, try opening the throttles to around 30% - with the parking brake set of course!I had trouble with starting during the beta (I had more trouble keeping them going once airborne though), but doing the correct thing at the correct time now gives me a good start everytime and I've not blown an engine in weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 873 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Please ensure that "Automixture" is UN-Checked in FSX's realism menu.Finn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahben 0 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Please ensure that "Automixture" is UN-Checked in FSX's realism menu.FinnThanks Gents,I had ''automixture''ticked in fsx menu,it works fine now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Wurz 42 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 maybe that is my problem too - I will try it on the Weekend - thanks Gents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodda 0 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 If you're sure you've not missed something, try opening the throttles to around 30% - with the parking brake set of course!I had trouble with starting during the beta (I had more trouble keeping them going once airborne though), but doing the correct thing at the correct time now gives me a good start everytime and I've not blown an engine in weeks I've noticed this as well. But for the first time last night I took off from water. With no parking brakes or anchor I found by the time I'd got the engines running smoothly I was at about 30 knots and half a mile away from where I started! And for the second engine, almost 40" MAP was required to stop it from stalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Golding 159 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 I've noticed this as well. But for the first time last night I took off from water. With no parking brakes or anchor I found by the time I'd got the engines running smoothly I was at about 30 knots and half a mile away from where I started! And for the second engine, almost 40" MAP was required to stop it from stalling.I guess that's what the prop levers are for Give it a try and you'll find you'll probably be able to around 50%+ on the throttles with the prop levers pulled back and actually go nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albrecht 9 Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 What is the correct way to restart one engine during cruise?With bad weather, this can happen... (to a beginner).Could only find somethings about in the emergency procedures (if engine doesn't restart).Albrecht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted May 16, 2009 Author Aerosoft Share Posted May 16, 2009 Mmmm... indeed the second part of the manual does not cover this as far as I can find. I would do it like this:Unfeather the prop to get it spinningFuel selector to bothIgnition on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Wurz 42 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 by the way, the automixture setting solved my issues - thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodda 0 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 I guess that's what the prop levers are for Thanks Paul. Hadn't thought of that one. Obvoius once you pointed it out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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