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#1 User is offline   Mathijs Kok (Aerosoft) Icon

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 03:44 PM

Not really my style of aircraft but we decided to start an Airbus project internally. The reason for this is simple, we feel there is a market for the kind of Airbus we got on mind. We want it to look stunning and be very interactive (think the Catalina style) but still with a high degree of usability. So we are not afraid to totally drop systems we feel have little use for the average simmers. One example, you won't be able to plan a route or load total nav databases with SID's and STARTs but you will be able to import a standard FSX flightplan. Something between the default FSX aircraft and PMDG complexity, usable for every simmer without having go through 300 pages of manuals. We have got very serious plans for the flybywire system and we are sure at this moment we'll be able to prevent the pilot from exceeding the limits set by Airbus. Pretty cool stuff.

This project has literally just been started (see how open we are with our information?) and is scheduled to be completed late summer. We got a high amount of resources on this project but we could use some help from customers. If you know your Airbusses and like to help us out, contact support@aerosoft.com. But only do so when you are able to be constructive and got knowledge about the 320/330 and 340.

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 07:56 PM

QUOTE (Mathijs Kok (Aerosoft) @ May 21 2009, 17:44 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Something between the default FSX aircraft and PMDG complexity, usable for every simmer without having go through 300 pages of manuals.

So, will you remove the Wilco Airbusses from your online shop as your project sounds a lot like a second Wilco-style product to me? *vomit*

Good luck -you will need it...

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 07:58 PM

Sounds very interesting, but FSX only right? mellow.gif
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Posted 21 May 2009 - 08:21 PM

Erm, I don't quite understand why you're working on a project like this.

For the people who are interested in a real, deep and complete Airbus sim ulation, AirSimmer is gonna be the No.1 and for those who just want to fly in Airbus style, there's Wilco available. I really don't get your strategy, sorry.


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Posted 21 May 2009 - 08:21 PM

QUOTE (Flusimmer @ May 21 2009, 19:58 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sounds very interesting, but FSX only right? mellow.gif


sounds more then interesting. But please also for the FS9!!!

But I think when the Airsimmer will be released,this will be the number 1.
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Posted 21 May 2009 - 09:04 PM

well i think it depends on what the simmer wants to fly. some people want to fly a good looking model with some cockpit features but arent interested in preparing 1h for a single flight. so this semirealistic airbus would be a nice choice smile.gif
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Posted 21 May 2009 - 09:05 PM

QUOTE (MaxH @ May 21 2009, 22:21 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Erm, I don't quite understand why you're working on a project like this.

For the people who are interested in a real, deep and complete Airbus sim ulation, AirSimmer is gonna be the No.1 and for those who just want to fly in Airbus style, there's Wilco available. I really don't get your strategy, sorry.


If you read Mathijs' post and actually understood it, you would realize your post is pointless.

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 09:06 PM

Oy oy, where are the other two engines?! tongue.gif
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 12:25 AM

I agree with MaxH. I also don't see the point of making an Airbus without fully working systems. The real Airbus fan won't buy an Airbus without a working Flight Management System just for looks of it, and the casual Airbus pilot already have the default bus or Wilco's.
But if you are decided to make it, it's because you think you can sell it. I have my doubts, though.
Just my 2 cents.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 01:33 AM

I'm not really in Airbus guy I'm a Boeing and Mcdonald Douglas lover, but I wouldn't mind having other airbus, you have to understand that airsimmer is for heavy systems like pmdg that's why it will have a high price. people have to realise that not everyone wants to do every switch and button to get everything running so I figure this would be a light product like the cls aircraft or overland.

We do have freeware like project airbus, that have really fantastic models but no vc, overland has a a320 in the airbus pack, but a very basic vc, wilco's other story lol I personally do not like the model at all its way off and the shape is not good at all at least for me, I'M sure many people would be interested in a complete package from a company they can trust like aerosoft, simmers that don't know how to install aircraft manually like we do, can just auto install with custom sounds liveries and a fantastic vc all in one big package.

I think its a great Idea as long as the model is accurate and the virtual cockpit looks super good and comes with a ton of liveries sounds etc etc its a winner. I'm really surprised that aerosoft wants to make in airliner but I'm glade they did it should be extremely interesting project.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 03:48 AM

I understand the need to hit a large market. But me being a tubeliner simmer, I prefer the more advance systems. It kinda separates it from VFR/GA flying and understanding the systems is the fun part. When you say like the PBY I think, Batteries, APU, Aerosoft Sound Control, Fuel System, and GPWS. But when I hear between PBY and PMDG I think, no FMC/FMS and Autoland, Advance Fuel Planning. As someone said above theres Wilco and CLS Airbus aircraft and while I feel Aerosoft can do this project and it will sell just becasue it Aerosoft I for one will not invest when I own more advance tubeliners in FSX and there are simular products on the FS market. If I had to pick the next project I would instead make a mission pack for Tahiti X since that is 9 airports and 12 islands. You could have tours, SAR, Cargo/Supply trasport, and passager commuting. The DHC-6 has a Tahiti paint.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:17 AM

Ages of waiting finally comes to an end.................
The rubbish model of PXS and Wilxx, together with the simple panel of CXS is really getting u ######ed.


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Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:19 AM

QUOTE (Stick @ May 22 2009, 06:48 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But when I hear between PBY and PMDG I think, no FMC/FMS and Autoland, Advance Fuel Planning.


The Airbus doesn't have a FMC. It's called FMGC.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:00 AM

This is extacly what I would like! Advanced systems, but being able to load a default flightplan smile.gif Is there any chance for an FS9 version?
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:44 AM

QUOTE (Er!k @ May 22 2009, 11:00 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Advanced systems, but being able to load a default flightplan


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Something between the default FSX aircraft and PMDG complexity, usable for every simmer without having go through 300 pages of manuals.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 09:01 AM

I've always been intrigued with the airplanes being created that were not already available, props especially. I'm a little surprised by this myself. It should definitely be an interesting journey.
If my post contains a question, please read the following so that you may be educated as to the manner in which I have asked. I as you know, usually don't ask these questions because I do research before I ask. I am a frequent forum visitor as I have been for several years, so I've kept "tabs" on what is and isn't being created that sparks my particular interest. And as you know I would not have asked this question if I did not possess this information already. I must also say that I am not looking for someone to "do my dirty work" for me, as I have done this myself. My question is aimed towards "behind the scenes" chatter that may have been thrown across the board at some point in the recent months as to ideas of a possible future project. I do realize this question may displease certain personalities so to them I say "just keep going, take a deep breath. You are safe and people love you". Thank you, gentlemen, for taking the time out of your day to read my question, and in advance for any helpful information you may release.


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Posted 22 May 2009 - 10:09 AM

QUOTE (SF22 @ May 22 2009, 03:19 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Airbus doesn't have a FMC. It's called FMGC.

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Sorry I only sim with the Boeing 747/767. (Never even flown on a Airbus) But thank's for the lesson. Never the less sound like this aircraft will not have a FMGC.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 11:02 AM

QUOTE (Mathijs Kok (Aerosoft) @ May 21 2009, 17:44 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One example, you won't be able to plan a route or load total nav databases with SID's and STARTs but you will be able to import a standard FSX flightplan.

So it will be something like Airbus Holiday Destinations but now for FSX... Than it's useless for VATSIM... Cause SIDs, STARs and updatable nav dtb is necessary... sad.gif
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 11:07 AM

Funny to see people's love for either Boeing or Airbus. A bit the same as the ever ongoing rivalry between Mercedes en BMW. I am no exception. As a young boy I made my first trip with a boeing 737-200. It was love at first sight.

Therefore I am - at every possible opportuntiy - promoting the idea of a good 737NG. I know PMDG etc, and yes they will put a very good product on the market, but untill then... and maybe even positioned in between Wilco and PMDG...
Basically the same strategy as yhou do now, with this exception. Wilco's 737 is the old 200-500 series, there is no NG availlable, The airbus version you have in store, the only thing to do is to make a more in depht version.

Again I am shamelessly promoting boeing, mostly because I am not a very patient man and I have no idea when PMDG will bring its version on the market. Put my name up for pre-sale whenever it comes to development stage.


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Post icon  Posted 22 May 2009 - 12:46 PM

QUOTE (Stick @ May 22 2009, 06:09 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry I only sim with the Boeing 747/767. (Never even flown on a Airbus) But thank's for the lesson. Never the less sound like this aircraft will not have a FMGC.


Hey stick I'm the same way I'M a Boeing Mcdonald Douglas simmer I always forget that airbus calls theres fmgc.
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