BIKF Scenery for FS9/FSX?

[Thralni 24]

August isn't that far away, so i guess we can wait ;-) And even if it'll be sometime october or november that's no big deal. Finally somebody will be doing Keflavik, so it'd be best if it would be done well once and for all. No reason to do it quickly and be saddled up with them shitty stuff nobody wants, right? I for one am happy that a FS9 version will come, although I really hope that by the time it comes out I already have FSX running well on my new computer.

[etien 16]

Airports should be photoreal. Rest is mest and landclass.

Aera of interest should be photoreal too: glaciers, zone of volcanic activity with the nice colourfull ponds, waterfalls, estuaries with drifting icebergs.

Etien

[PatrickZ 300]

First things first: Frode, to give up on an entire company just because they are likely not to make the thing you want them to do make is absurd, don't you think? I mean, look at what you say: "I invested lots of money in you". So, how is that relevant? You paid them for what you got. You can not buy products of a company and then demand they make something which you specifically request. You can kindly ask them, but you can not demand. Why can't you? Because you are not paying them to do it. The products you bought and the money you paid for these products are only related to those products. You pay for the work they did. You can not draw the conclusion "I paid money for product X, so I think you have to make product Y". That's simply absurd.

That is absurd indeed, but if you put it like that all you got to do is pay for developing a scenery the way you want it. Now I'm not exactly rich, but suppose I was I could pick an airport and tell Aerosoft I want that airport to be made an FS9-scenery of and then pay for it. That way, I would have paid for them to make it and they would have to do as I ordered.

Maybe that would be the future way of deciding what products to be made. Until now, Aerosoft took the decisions of what products they were going to make themselves and then after it's finished they just had to see if it's succesfull or not. Maybe in the future customers could come up with ideas and make a fund for every idea. As soon as the development costs for a product have been raised, development could start. Then the customers participating in that fund in fact own the project and Aerosoft is to do as they please. Products with less demand would not raise the development costs and would not be produced.

[horst18519 231]

Fortunately we have a better way of managing our projects.

[etien 16]

Hehe, will soon be back from vacations and was wondering if my icelandic dream was taking forms? Etien

[horst18519 231]

We've got to finish Larnaca first, but then Iceland should be proceeding rather fast.

[Just Fly 56]

[...], but then Iceland should be proceeding rather fast.

That's nice! And when do you expect to finish Larnaca ?

[horst18519 231]

Hopefully within 4 weeks.

[Thomson752 7]

Will Larnaca for FSX and FS9 be finished before moving on to Iceland?

[horst18519 231]

Just for your interest: the project is still proceeding, release will be within 2010.

[B777ER 8]

60-75 % of all flightsimmers are still running FS9

Show factual sales data to support this claim. Oh, thats right, you can't. You pulled it out of thin air.

[labbi91 0]

Ah, nice!

Because with all the news of other Sim-wings project, I feared this one was postponed to 2012-ish ..

So when can we expect previews? And are you making BIEG in any of the (two?) projects for Iceland? Just curious, because I'm in the process of making this airport (fs9 for now) on a hobby basis..

Thank you Thorsten!

Lars B. Schmidt

[etien 16]

Just for your interest: the project is still proceeding, release will be within 2010.

Great news ThoRe! Don t rush i though. Etien

[horst18519 231]

Lars, the Iceland X addon will not be for FS9 so it'd be nice if you created airports for FS9. Keflavik X will be for FSX and FS9 though.

[labbi91 0]

I see

The Iceland X addon, is that just mesh and landclass, or are you making airports and strips as well?

Nevertheless, both addons are eagerly awaited by my credit card I do run FSX, just not very smoothly. VFR flying over Iceland with better mesh will be great though!

But like Etien said, take your time!

Lars

[horst18519 231]

Iceland X will include the bigger airports like BIEG, BIAR, BIVM and of course BIRK.

[horst18519 231]

Just to show you we haven't abandoned this project.

Note that this is development state, so don't report any bugs or missing items.

[TF-197 28]

that looks exactly like the real one good job Thorsten

[etien 16]

GREAT!!! :wub: :wub:

[fsisland 5]

Looks good

[tors 2]

Dear Thorsten!

First I want to thank you for your great job of Iceland for Flight Simulator. I would be very pleased if you would make few airports for fs9, Keflavík, Reykjavík, Egilstaðir, Akureyri and Ísafjörður (most of this airports are very small). In my point of view, you would´nt have to make landscape of Iceland for fs9, but the main airports in every landpart of Iceland would be very nice. Hope you will consider this.

Best regards,

Þórður Sigurjónsson,

Keflavík, Iceland.

[horst18519 231]

There will be approx. 40 airports included in the Iceland X addon (not Keflavik though, that will come as an extra addon for FS9 and FSX as described before), some very detailed, others not so much.

Now let me talk about FS9 vs FSX for one last time in this topic. You will have to listen to this and then consider if it makes any sense to ask for Iceland FS9:

We spent hundreds of hours already on the scenery of Iceland (not counting the airports, just landscape) and I have personally drawn millions of vertices to define the coastlines (more than 5000km), thousands of lakes and rivers, more than 10,000km of roads, glaciers, mountains, villages and lots more. FSX does not mind those millions of vectors at all, but if I would try to feed them to FS9 it would ask me: "wtf?!" - or rather it would not ask but simply crash, because it would've too much trouble calculating all those vectors to find any ressource for talking to me...

You see that I write this as a developer, not a product manager or salesman. It's how I experience FS since I began developing stuff for FS4. You have always have to cope with current limitations, and when it comes to terrain FS9 simply is way behind FSX.

You might argue whatever you like, there is no way FS9 could handle the amount of data neccessary to make Iceland look like Iceland.

I see that a lot of users still use FS9, mostly because of performance reasons and mostly for the big aircraft and airports if I'm not mistaken.

Iceland is for VFR pilots, for those who want to have the visual experience, and I might not be mistaken guessing that most of them use FSX because it offers much more when it comes to visuals. As long as performence is good, that is.

Now we all know that the biggest performance killers are densely populated areas, huge airports, lots of autogen. Iceland has nothing of that. Even though I get to the limits of what terrain compilers can handle I have maximum fps all around Iceland (apart from BIRK/BIKF area of course), so you will be able to experience Iceland X with max'ed settings even on slower PCs.

For those of you still loving FS9 we will release Iceland's major airport Keflavik as FSX and FS9 versions. There are some nicely done freeware addons for Iceland FS9 (landclass, mesh,...) that will help you enhance Iceland in FS9, but don't expect to ever see anything like you will get with FSX Iceland X in your FS9: it's simply impossible.

Now I think you might have an idea of how FS9 and FSX work and why we do certain things and don't do other things.

[geoffbecks 0]

For those of you still loving FS9 we will release Iceland's major airport Keflavik as FSX and FS9 versions

Great news !! thats all I would be interested in. Your right that most fs9ers want only the airports and bigish aircraft, I for one only fly on line and I use fs9,ground based scenery is a waste of resorces as most of the time its too low to see any detail, That said though I would have bought Larnaca International airport from you in a heart beat, but it looks like I will not be buying it as its only fsx....shame, But i will look forward too Keflavik

[flusi4ever 39]

I won't buy for FSX, too, but I'm interested in Keflavík for FS9. That's a sure sale for me. I would also like to see, BIRK and BIIS for FS9. If that is not possible because of any limtiations or anything else, then is it also ok for me.

[horst18519 231]

It's been some time, but we're finally getting closer to the BIKF FS9+FSX release:

http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/44444-keflavik/

3rd topic about Keflavik, I hope this is a good sign...